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Post by roy on Feb 25, 2012 12:18:22 GMT -5
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Post by T Bhat on Feb 25, 2012 14:56:16 GMT -5
A very good letter. I enjoyed reading the letter.
I put the value of BRK around 150 - 160K/A share - roughly discounted to market value by about 20-30%. I expect 2012 to be better.
I also included two tables last year that set forth the key quantitative ingredients that will help youestimate our per-share intrinsic value. I won’t repeat the full discussion here; you can find it reproduced on pages 99-100. To update the tables shown there, our per-share investments in 2011 increased 4% to $98,366, and our pre-tax earnings from businesses other than insurance and investments increased 18% to $6,990 per share. Charlie and I like to see gains in both areas, but our primary focus is on building operating earnings. Over time, the businesses we currently own should increase their aggregate earnings, and we hope also to purchase some large operations that will give us a further boost. We now have eight subsidiaries that would each be included in the Fortune 500 were they stand-alone companies. That leaves only 492 to go. My task is clear, and I’m on the prowl.
The book value growth came in a bit lower than expected because of the charges for Mormon and also some of the other charges booked for derivatives.
The other interesting point was that at 1.1 book, BRK is about 0.9 times its low end of the intrinsic value. This pegs the intrinsic value going by low end of the book value alone at 120K/share which is about the market price today.
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Post by roy on Feb 25, 2012 15:32:09 GMT -5
I found the banking sector comment to be of interest:
The banking industry is back on its feet, and Wells Fargo is prospering. Its earnings are strong, its assets solid and its capital at record levels. At Bank of America, some huge mistakes were made by prior management. Brian Moynihan has made excellent progress in cleaning these up, though the completion of that process will take a number of years. Concurrently, he is nurturing a huge and attractive underlying business that will endure long after today’s problems are forgotten. Our warrants to buy 700 million Bank of America shares will likely be of great value before they expire
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Post by T Bhat on Feb 25, 2012 18:54:23 GMT -5
Berkshire was also hurt in insurance by taking a charge for life insurance.
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Post by akt on Feb 26, 2012 10:39:54 GMT -5
A very nice report on the book share gains from a message board:
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Book value has grown by a compound annual growth rate of 10.1% from year end 2001 to year end 2011. The annual percentage changes in book value were:
2002, 10% 2003, 21% 2004, 10.5% 2005, 6.4% 2006, 18.4% 2007, 11% 2008, (9.6%) 2009, 19.8% 2010, 13% 2011, 4.1%
For a company of this size this is an incredible achievement. If they can do 8% over the next decade they will be doing well.
The average share price has grown by a compound annual growth rate of 5.5% from the 2001 average to the 2011 average. The annual percentage changes in average share price were:
2002, 3% 2003, 5% 2004, 22% 2005, (4%) 2006, 18% 2007, 30% 2008, (15%) 2009, (13%) 2010, 16% 2011, 3%
The Price/Book ratio has gone down from 1.77 at the end of 2001 to 1.15 at the end of 2011 (that is using the average share price during the year). The Price/book ratio at Friday's close of $120,000 per share is 1.2. The annual Price/Book ratios during this period were:
2001, 1.77 2002, 1.65 2003, 1.44 2004, 1.58 2005, 1.43 2006, 1.42 2007, 1.66 2008, 1.57 2009, 1.14 2010, 1.17 2011, 1.15 Friday close , 1.20
Obviously, Berkshire is cheaper today than it was 10 years ago.
The changes in the annual average share price is up and down - ranging from -15% to +30%. The in year changes are even more volatile, for example in 2008 the share price swung by almost 100% between $74,100 and $147,000. A long term investor got 5.5% from Berkshire over the last ten years. Others experienced very different results in both directions.
Looking to the next ten years, we can reasonably expect two things:
1. Book value will continue to grow but a lower rate. I would say no more than 8%. 2. The Price/Book ratio will go up and down, but will, on average, be significantly higher than the current 1.2 at different points over the next ten years. Even Buffett is publically saying Berkshire is undervalued. I would say the past 10 year average of 1.45 is reasonable.
IF Book Value grows at 8% per year and the Price/Book ratio is 1.45 at the end of 2021 the share price will be $313,313 which is a CAGR of 10.1% from Friday's close.
Of course it would not be a smooth 10% and will probably look something more like this:
2011, $120,000 2012, $140,000, 17% 2013, $135,000, (4%) 2014, $170,000, 26% 2015, $135,000, (21%) 2016, $182,000, 35% 2017, $190,000, 4% 2018, $240,000, 26% 2019 $238,000, (1%) 2020 $289,000 21% 2021 $313,513 8% CAGR 10.1%
I first bought Berkshire in 2001, I was new to investing, paying full value and had unreasonable growth expectations. As a result I was disappointed with my investment in Berkshire. I finally sold out a year or two ago. I still have some in my children's `hold for ever accounts' and plan to start accumulating again starting Monday, so I am still interested.
I do think now is most definitely not the time to give up on Berkshire for the long term holders nor is it a 30% a year stock that some new investors may think. It may well be a 2012 30% stock though but that is speculation, albeit intelligent speculation.
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Post by polaris on Feb 27, 2012 21:44:51 GMT -5
Very informative and reasonable. Thank you for posting.
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